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jon_titor 97 points 1 month ago[-]

Yeah, my dad's a dean at one of the Tennessee Board of Regents schools, and he's pretty pissed about this. He hasn't been able to hire new faculty in departments that really need it, tuition has had to increase dramatically, and now those fuckers are wasting money on something as trivial as this.

d0_ob 44 points 1 month ago[-]

Well, according to the passed legislation:http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/info/Leg_Archives/105GA/bills/Chapters/PC0819.pdf

There is no penalty for not following the "law." Worst case, your school gets put into a "report"... Perhaps the political environment requires his compliance, but the law certainly does not.

jon_titor 26 points 1 month ago* [-]

The decision is made by someone higher up than he is, but that person's decision directly affects the budget that he has to work with.

Carioca 19 points 1 month ago[-]

Upmodded for being a time-traveler who knows the meaning of "effect" as a verb

grandmotherfucker 14 points 1 month ago[-]

He fixed it and now I'm confused!

blhack 4 points 1 month ago* [-]

effects cause affects. That's how i remember it :)

DogBotherer 3 points 1 month ago[-]

You can effect something effectively by affecting it with a positive affect.

BristolPalin 1 point 1 month ago[-]

ยค%& you!

turiya04 5 points 1 month ago[-]

We know how that turned out last time.

[deleted] 0 points 1 month ago[-]

Ohh? Hey?

Taciturn 5 points 1 month ago[-]

"Effect" as a verb means "to make happen" or "to bring about." Since other factors also affect the budget he must be a time-traveler who didn't know the meaning of "effect" as a verb.

jon_titor 6 points 1 month ago[-]

damn! I should have used that defense when called out on my misspelling!

takeda64 5 points 1 month ago[-]

if you've already being corrected, you could just leave it alone or leave comment what happened.

Now some of us have no idea what happened.

ABabyAteMyDingo 2 points 1 month ago* [-]

effects

"affects". Sorry.

vlad_tepes 9 points 1 month ago[-]

Chill, all people do it now and then. It's not like their doing it on purpose :D

zorno 4 points 1 month ago[-]

True, its not a big deal. There are, a lot of things, that people do when 'writing', that can be 'annoying', but we shud all remember, that none of us is perfect.

Epistaxis 3 points 1 month ago[-]

I can't tell if this was intentional, but "none of us is perfect" is actually correct.

zorno 1 point 1 month ago[-]

lol really? I always right none of us are perfect. Why is this though? If I said 'we is going to the store' it is incorrect, I thought 'is' is for singular, 'are' is for plural...?

ABabyAteMyDingo -2 points 1 month ago[-]

their

they're :-)

mig174 2 points 1 month ago[-]

Chill, all people do it now and then. It's not like their doing it on purpose :D

jon_titor 1 point 1 month ago[-]

oh, yeah, my bad. I normally don't do that. Brain fart I suppose.

Papper 11 points 1 month ago[-]

Tell him to burn their pets.

atara_x_ia 49 points 1 month ago[-]

You wouldn't download a professor!

Xtal 19 points 1 month ago[-]

You wouldn't rip out and eat a still-beating human heart!

Yst 3 points 1 month ago[-]

You wouldn't rip out and eat a still-beating human heart!

Why everybody always be hatin on my cardiophagous homies in the Temple of Doom?

Poromenos 10 points 1 month ago[-]

You wouldn't club a baby seal!

h0dg3s 9 points 1 month ago[-]

Yes I would.

Poromenos 12 points 1 month ago[-]

No you wouldn't.

Kostoglotov 1 point 1 month ago[-]

Forget about digg, this place is turning into 4chan.

noseeme 15 points 1 month ago[-]

You wouldn't break a potentially epic combo with a trivial squabble!

Facehammer 10 points 1 month ago[-]

You wouldn't blow millions on an ineffective deterrent against a victimless crime!

glengyron 7 points 1 month ago[-]

You wouldn't bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.

tryx 2 points 1 month ago[-]

Well you wouldn't go clubbing with a baby seal.

midnightmoonbeam 5 points 1 month ago[-]

Bender's the best!

jon_titor 4 points 1 month ago[-]

well that seems a little extreme.

Mordy101 2 points 1 month ago[-]

He is working with dishonorable people..

He should go elsewhere....

capecodcarl 1 point 1 month ago[-]

Why not just disconnect students from the Internet or require them to get their own cable/DSL Internet access? Then the schools aren't responsible for monitoring what students do.

jon_titor 7 points 1 month ago[-]

Personally, I think it's ridiculous to hold the schools responsible for their students' internet usage anyway.

I mean, would the feds sue the chemistry department if one of the students was found making LSD in the lab?

antisthenex 2 points 1 month ago[-]

Honestly, you would be surprised how trigger-happy the government is about shutting down labs.

I'm not saying it's always a bad thing, but it is true.

Tinidril 0 points 1 month ago[-]

Stop that! Thats crazy talk!

thebigbradwolf 56 points 1 month ago[-]

Pretending to stop piracy more important than paying for 100 professors in Tennessee University system.

FTFY

[deleted] 24 points 1 month ago* [-]

"Pretending" is key. There is NOTHING that will stop media piracy, EVER. The advent of the internet and digital media has irreversibly changed society, for better or for worse. The sooner these foolish politicians realize the reality of the situation, the better.

All of this is such nonsense! We're going to look back on this crap in 50 years and laugh.

wackyvorlon 22 points 1 month ago[-]

Here's the problem: Economics.

You're always told about and supply and demand, and it's effect on price. With computers, the cost of reproducing media approaches zero, causing supply to approach infinity. Demand remains finite in this equation. This, inexorably, results in price trending toward zero.

No matter how hard they try to defeat it, the "invisible hand" of the market is not acting in their favour. They will never succeed.

benologist 0 points 1 month ago[-]

"the cost of reproducing media approaches zero"

You're conveniently overlooking the cost of producing it which is and has always been a lot more expensive than the method of distribution. The internet has only swapped CDs that cost pennies to produce for bandwidth that costs a penny.

ianweeks 3 points 1 month ago[-]

Producing an album doesn't have to cost much. A guitar, a mic, a PC, a decent soundcard and some software gets you very far these days, and it won't be long until software solutions will surpass hardware solutions in terms of quality in a recording environment.

With studio budgets out of the equation, only artists with a big creative drive will record their music. And with studio marketing out of the equation, popular music will be popular for its quality and not due to distribution, payola and endless repetition.

Conclusion: music gets better and will be free. Live performances will be relevent again in popular music. Everyone wins, except studio heads and lazy artists who are only in it for the money.

wackyvorlon 7 points 1 month ago* [-]

The cost of initial production is fixed once it is produced. Because of this, the cost can be distributed across millions of copies. The end result being that that cost becomes microscopic.

As well, I very much doubt that the initial cost of production exceeds that of distribution for CDs. Your comparison between CDs "that cost pennies" and bandwidth "that costs a penny" is fundamentally flawed. The ratio differs greatly. The reality is that the bandwidth for a given song is much, much less than a penny in cost.

It can be difficult to directly compare, but I will attempt to do so. If we work with a 1 megabit/sec connection, downloading continuously at capacity for one month. We'll assume a 30 day month. That gives us 2.592*10^6 seconds. That gives us megabits. Divide by 8 to get MB... Or, roughly 324 GB in one month. If we go with $40 for said month of internet access, that gives ~12.3 cents per gigabyte. Let us be generous, and say our CD holds 100MB of music data. So $.123 * .1GB is ~1.2 cents. That cost replaces the cost to press the disks, produce packaging, ship the disks, employ personal to handle and sell them, etc.

It's very possible there are errors in my estimate, and the assumptions(which may or may not be valid) are outlined above. The increase in efficiency, and the decrease in production cost is staggering.

As for your assertion that the cost of producing the music exceeds that of production and distribution of the physical media, I will require that you cite a reference for that one. I do not believe it to be correct.

encinarus 1 point 1 month ago* [-]

The cost of initial production is fixed once it is produced. Because of this, the cost can be distributed across millions of copies. The end result being that that cost becomes microscopic.

Only if those copies have a positive return.

butwait 8 points 1 month ago[-]

The internet also has cherrypeel and thesixtyone and songmancer. People will make music for as long as there are people, and they will be happy to share it.

Tinidril 2 points 1 month ago* [-]

homeworld 18 points 1 month ago[-]

Stopping piracy is important. It seems like every day they've taken over another oil tanker.

markitymark 6 points 1 month ago[-]

I can't be the only one that thought this was the sort of piracy they were talking about, and thought, "well, I guess that might be reasonable...pretty odd unit of measure...."

homeworld 1 point 1 month ago[-]

seems like a fair trade

Kostoglotov 2 points 1 month ago[-]

Eating Belgian waffles is more important than stopping piracy.

shibumi 2 points 1 month ago[-]

Do not call copyright infringement piracy.

Real piracy, like in the waters around Somalia, is real and important. Your language is being corrupted for devious means, to direct public opinion and muddle everyone's thinking. Don't be an accomplice to that.

marmorek 9 points 1 month ago[-]

Why don't they just let the Indian navy deal with it?